I have a guest with me today.
She uncovered a plot by a group of rivals to take down medical medium and our community.
To be safe, she chose to record the calls legally, and they were caught red-handed.
We're talking about the plot.
A group of rivals planned in a premeditative way to take down medical medium and the community.
Make it go away.
take it all down. But they got caught. Caught red-handed. They got found out. If they didn't,
no one would be the wiser. Never before has this ever happened in the health and wellness space.
When you listen to the plot, your jaw may hit the floor. Strap yourself in for episode two,
get ready for the next round of the plotter's recordings.
holy shit we need to get this guy off the internet first chop at the tree parting of the red seas
take him down take the scale multiple steps take everything down step one in this process
there's no coming back from that when i just hear those again and the intentions behind them
i mean you i'm still in shock first of all but you can feel the negative energy
and the sense of their goals.
And the more recordings we hear, the more is uncovered.
It's bone chilling.
Back with me on the Medical Medium podcast is Amber Vizzicaro,
who the medical medium community is calling our hero right now.
I'm honored to have you here, Amber.
Today we're going to go through some more recordings that were obtained legally.
and of these anonymous sources who are actually plotting the takedown of the medical medium and
the medical medium community. And when I say that, I mean, I just can't believe what they were doing,
but the facts are there, the information's there, and the recordings are there,
undeniable. And it's just, it's just unbelievable. For the people who haven't heard the last episode,
if you can and you have a moment, try to catch up and listen to 35, episode 35, part one,
plot to take down the medical medium. Amber, first, can you give us a little recap on some
of your recordings from the last episode? Of course. In part one, we talked about how
there was an attempt to indoctrinate me into a group, a group of people with health and wellness
businesses that have plotted a premeditated plan to go to a journalist at a mainstream media outlet
with a manipulated story that would, if all went according to their plan, cause so much upset that
the medical medium community would all come crashing down. And in the process, they're
exploiting a deceased person, shaping a story the way that they want to spin it, leaving out facts
and content, cherry picking evidence that suits a preferred narrative with a plan of publishing
additional articles and ultimately to sell a negative documentary. And we talked about how
I obtained legal recordings of these phone conversations.
Versus like when the movie came out or the Netflix thing came out, like this is going to happen.
holy shit
there's going to be a documentary about it all
that's our vision
I mean it's not going to be first you have to publish the article
and then once the article is published
then people start bidding on the piece
the intention that Ash and I had
is that
a Netflix series
like Bad Vegan
will be made about Anthony Brown
and it will be a fucking hit
because what he pulled off is unbelievable.
I mean, the celebrity angle, like this thing,
this Netflix version is going to go bonkers.
I mean, I connected him with a lot of people too.
He really appreciated Ash and I,
and then we just gave him a lot of direction for this piece.
We gave him a lot of clarity, sort of like,
he was having a hard time wrapping his head around a lot of it.
He had to like really hammer in his head, like what's going on
and like explain the details and point him towards it,
point him towards that but i i was upset and i said like he you are scared you're scared like
what's going on what's the delay like you you have everything it's on the phone like you have all
this stuff like what do you need and then i basically threatened i will definitely take
responsibility for one i've been one of the people that's been pushing for this uh if you want to
take it through the list of people of why this article is coming out and why it's coming out in a
mainstream publication is number one. Ash is number one responsible. I would be number two,
be number three, be number four. It was us four who like decided this needs to happen.
So this is what this group of plotters did to sell a story, to sell their narrative.
They had to hammer it into the head of a journalist, point him here and point him there,
and ultimately threaten him. And today I'm going to unpack more of the content from the calls that
I had with these plotters as part of the attempt that they had to recruit me. That really speaks
to a serious lack of credibility in each of them as sources. And *** had given me seeds. She planted
seeds that I had not heard when I saw the documentary. And then when I saw the documentary
and I flipped, that's when I started collecting way more information. I went back to the
I asked for more. First of all, I want to point out here that this plotter is stating in his own
words that what ultimately what turned him against medical medium wasn't a story. It wasn't a piece
of information about a deceased person. It was him watching a documentary that a co-plotter's
husband helped to create, which made him think to himself, that could be Anthony.
That was his light bulb moment. Next, he says he turned to a source that he deems as being reliable,
who made him so confident that medical medium was problematic,
that he became the number two instigator of this entire takedown plot.
Can I hear that one again?
I mean, she, uh, is like a CIA agent. I mean, this, and she'll be happy to talk to you, Amber.
You can talk to anybody you want in this story, but she like went about pictures of him in his
high school yearbook. So that sounds like the plotters or are looking for anything they can
find. I guess they're in my yearbook looking for pictures. And I heard CIA agent. So I guess there
must be something these plotters are doing. So, and when I even think back to the other clips you
played for us, there were four people. They had like a ranking system. So it was like one, two,
three four and they brought this plot to the media company i that's what it looks like too
through all that and it was inspired by a husband who actually does cinematography
meaning that was involved and i'm just so blown away in a sense where i'm i'm actually in shock
in shock so well really i was just a seeker of truth like you are
i just wanted to know the truth so i was surprised he talked to me on the phone and
we talked for a good long time but one of the stories he told me i have no idea why i don't
remember why our conversation went here but i think this is the underlying thing for anthony all the
time is that um i think in his childhood growing up and in maine and it's just it's a different world
um especially back then um and he probably didn't fit in i think the kids picked on him a lot
He was mentioning stuff that how the boys, when he was, he had a little job after work, after school, like a little work job.
And he was walking home and they set up, it was winter time, and they set up a snow trap.
I don't know what to call it.
Whereas when he walked by a certain spot, they all bombarded him with snowballs.
And he's still telling this story to this day, to me.
so apparently it hurt him a lot both physically and mentally i think he was like bloody and
bleeding and you know you have to go home and explain to your mom why why you're all beat up
but i think that was a common thing that kids were mean to him so um i don't know maybe he
snapped i don't know he just has this strong will to feel important that's what i say to kind of
get back at everyone, you know, to be something really special.
So here we are again. This is, this is somebody who this group is relying on for
so-called factual information that ultimately the journalist ends up relying on for factual
information. And, and we have again, the truth seeker phrase, truth seeker, truth seeker.
And I want to talk about this so-called truth. Anthony, is this, is this a story that you
shared with this woman? I haven't experienced a childhood experience like that. So I'm, you know,
confused about that. That seems like the story from the movie Elf, where Buddy and Michael were
in Central Park, and they got attacked by some kids and some bullies. That's what it reminds me of.
Ow! Son of a nutcracker!
Run!
Get off!
Break off!
And he's still telling the story to this day, to me.
So if I hear that clip correctly, that recording,
she's saying,
I'm still telling that same snowball fight story today,
or maybe the other day,
or it sounds like now,
I'm still telling that person the story.
but I haven't talked to this person in years um I don't know maybe he snapped I don't know
he just has this strong will to feel important that's what I say to kind of
get back at everyone you know to be something really special and I really don't think it's
spirit I think he I think he has a mental disorder actually because there's so many
things that are signals for that. Maybe he really does think he hears voices, you know? There's a lot
of people with schizophrenia out there and they think they hear voices as well.
And not necessarily bad ones. Basically, this woman doesn't believe in your gift,
which is fine, right? To each their own. But she's filling in that gap by diagnosing you
as if she's a psychiatrist when she's not based on stories that you never actually told her.
And one major theme that I observe from these recordings is that several people in this group
weaponize the fact that they've ever spoken to you personally at all, even if you were not actually
close to them in reality. And they use it as leverage to position themselves as people who
have insider information to recruit others and as a marker of credibility to say whatever they want
about you in general. Okay. So he knows he can talk to a lot of people and gathered all kinds of information. He has a shit ton from a shit ton.
Here this plotter is saying that the journalist that they sought out for this mainstream media article
got a ton of his information from this woman.
And I'm not exactly sure that she sounds like a reliable source, to say the least.
We don't know, like, when he woke up from a coma,
is he mentally disturbed?
Does he actually think he hears a voice?
I mean, are these people who do, like, fucking crazy sacrifices?
I don't even know. Who knows?
Like, are they acting like they're Christian, but they're really...
killing little babies.
I don't fucking know.
It's crazy.
So this guy is plotting a plan
with a group of people,
a group of plotters.
They've taken it to a major
mainstream media outlet.
And at the same time,
they're plotting,
they're associating me with
sacrificing babies
or killing babies
while they're being anonymous sources.
And yeah, this is amazing, actually.
But there's like no one more trustworthy than Robbie.
So I know that whatever he shared with you is like spot on.
Can we hear that one again?
But there's like no one more trustworthy than Robbie.
So I know that whatever he shared with you is like spot on.
The most trustworthy.
That was really interesting to me.
Is that what we're calling someone who's making up horrifying allegations of sacrificing and
killing babies who completely hid this sinister plot from me for over a year and who plotted
behind your back, Anthony, and behind everyone's back?
Is it possible to hear that one again?
Throughout these recordings, the plotters contradict themselves a lot like this.
Here, it's at first, at first, it's we're the good guys.
And then, well, I don't know about good, but at least honest.
And then she says, it's, well, we're trying to be honest.
This is who was named as the number one source.
and she's here contradicting herself again and again as she's referring to herself and her fellow
colluders. Anthony that's not even his real name by the way I'm not sure if you know that. It's not?
It's not. No it's not. What is it? I don't even know. I don't care anymore.
That's not his real name though. This plotter was so confident in the negative things that she was
saying, so confident in saying that Anthony is not your real name, and yet she doesn't
actually know what it is.
She doesn't know.
She doesn't care.
It's like she can't even be bothered to get her information straight before spreading
rumors.
Anthony, that's not even his real name, by the way.
I'm not sure if you know that.
It's not?
It's not.
No, it's not.
What is it?
I don't even know.
I don't care anymore.
That's not his real name, though.
Okay, so that's not my real name I'm hearing. The interesting part is the person doesn't even care to even know, but this person is a source that's supposed to be relied upon.
When I was growing up, no one could pronounce my last name right.
And so my school teachers and other people would call me Anthony William.
And Anthony William is my legal name.
That is my real name.
My real name is Anthony.
And so when I hear that, it sounds like my name Anthony is not even my real name.
So if that rumor is going around, I could see people being like, whoa, that's not even
his real name.
But it's Anthony William.
That's my real name.
And that's what I go by.
And there's nothing wrong with trying to maintain a little bit of privacy too.
But my name is not hidden by any means.
My last name's not hidden at all.
It's easy to find.
It's not as if it's being hidden.
But throughout my life, my family has called me Anthony William.
My mom calls me Anthony William, even up to this point now, today.
And that is my legal name.
And Anthony is my first legal name, too.
Throughout these recordings, I found that this group often conflated privacy with dishonesty.
They're acting like you're deceiving people when Anthony William is your actual legal first name and middle name.
Your last name is out there.
Like you said, you're not hiding it.
there's nothing wrong with wanting to maintain some privacy.
Meanwhile, these plotters didn't want anyone to know
what they've been up to and what they've been doing.
I'm not afraid of Anthony.
I'm being strategic.
If I wanted, I mean, I thought about when I talked to him,
well, do you want to be off the record, on back?
I'm like, what do you want to do here?
And the truth is, I would be happy to be on the record
and just like say, oh, Robbie said that.
But the strategic reason behind that, that's not smart because I'm, I have a different, I'm building something different with my life.
And I don't want to be associated with this in any way, shape or form.
I want to just completely distance myself and be gone.
I will not be in the documentary.
My name will not be in the article.
I'm just leaving.
That's tragic in so many ways.
so I'm speechless in the moment when I hear that because what that plotter is doing
is telling a journalist whatever they want to tell him going anonymous
the person's not afraid of me the person just doesn't want to be involved at any level after
the basically the bomb is dropped and and a documentary happens because that's part of the
plotter's plan altogether. But this person works in the health space, is a business owner,
or works in business in the health space. And here that person is basically plotting to plan
or strategically plotting to plan the takedown of medical medium and the community.
the journalist is allowing it that's a whole nother story and to unpack this i mean i could
sit here we can sit here and unpack this for a long time but i know we have to move on there's
so much more but this is a person working in the health space competitor rival whatever you want
to say a plotter with a group of people directing a journalist staying anonymous going on the merry
way to keep doing what they're doing in the health space, in the health field, not having
their name attached to anything. And they're not afraid of me at the same time. And all
this is perfectly fine to the journalist, perfectly fine, obviously, to the media company.
I find it despicable.
He's great. Like, he's really, he's really easygoing. And if you say to him, like, I
I want to talk on background or I want to talk off the record or however you want to do it.
If you say, I don't want you to quote me or say it, you like, you know, put my name anywhere.
He's happy to do that.
And he's also like, he'll change your name if you want, you know, a particular statement to be said, but you want to use a different name.
You know, just make sure you are upfront about anonymity.
Do you want your name mentioned or not? Be sure you say clearly what you want.
And my recommendation for that, you know what that is, is to not.
Don't go there. You know, you don't want to be sued for any kind of defamation of character.
So on these recordings, I'm pretty sure that what is being described here is not how real journalism is supposed to be.
conducted and one of these plotters is clearly aware that what she's saying is
most likely defamatory. It's like she's gonna go after you but she's not gonna
put her name behind it. It sounds like she's not confident in what she's saying
and concerned that what she's saying might not be true. And some of these
sources won't put their names behind their statements because they
admittedly don't completely stand behind their statements.
So if he had picked something out that was like, yes, I stand by that statement 1,000% every single moment of my life, I would have been like, yeah, you can use my name.
but the things that he asked me to go on record were like not things that I,
I was just like, I mean, I said that,
but that's not really like something that I feel like super strongly about.
It feels important to have my name behind it.
So I ended up saying no.
And he was very kind about it.
I mean, he asked me to explain why and I did,
but he didn't like push me about it at all.
so that's a major red flag to me i think that that sounds like something the journalist something
that the journalist should have pushed her on if she doesn't feel comfortable with what she said
she shouldn't have it in print the fact that the journalist knows that she doesn't even fully stand
behind what she said to me that shouldn't even go in an article then i really don't even know
what to say about this. When you unpack this one, the person doesn't feel comfortable standing
behind their statement, that alone, right? And then the person isn't even a thousand percent
confident. The statement is not just stand viable, but can even be seen. The person wants to be
anonymous in the back end, but yet isn't standing behind the statements, doesn't want them out front
on record. Journalist seems to be fine with it. I mean, it just seems like a weaponization of some
kind. It's almost like just fit anything in. Oh, you want to be in the back end? Then fine. You
don't have to stand behind these comments. We'll put them in the article. But don't worry, we won't
say your name. Maybe they'll even change a name, of course, put a fake name. It's a type of
wordsmithing for sure. And they do this, I think, to make the reader feel any way they want them to
feel. And they kind of put what they want to put in, even if the person isn't standing behind it.
and this should be the bigger story because this is yeah this is unconsciousable
yeah it's it's not a natural situation it's not a natural story it seems as though these people
don't know much of the story or they don't feel comfortable standing by their own statements
and there's some misinformation mixed in
and then you've got a journalist listening
as if this stuff is all, you know, real.
It's kind of like a favoring of the plotted plan.
And it falls in the line of, I mean,
some character assassination territory.
It's like you can keep,
you can take sources that are filled with misinformation
and then you can weaponize it like you said.
You can slip in a fact or two somewhere around it
and then you make it as if it's law
or complete truth. And it's really interesting. It seems like it's a way of telling the story the
way that they want the reader to read it. And so obviously I had some questions about all of this
as I was listening to this group of individuals. I was trying to figure it all out. I really,
truly was not asking a huge amount of questions. I was mostly just trying to hear these people out,
as you can hear in the recordings that we're sharing. But it was interesting to me that
throughout this process, they quickly became uncomfortable with me asking questions at all.
You might want to stop talking to people at some point. I mean, I can't imagine you don't have
enough information by now. I mean, again, I don't know how much more you need to know, Amber, but
obviously, and even though I'm trying to go ahead, I'm just saying, like, I'm just looking out for
you. Like, I guess my question is, how long do you want to stay in the state? I think Robbie's
kind of frustrated with me because I've been asking questions.
And it's happening for me too.
This group of plotters feels so strongly about you being so problematic that they have taken
it this far so as to plot to take you down, to take the community down.
Yet they don't even know medical medium information that well.
You've probably read the books more thoroughly than I have.
well the first one I actually really liked the first very first one that came out it was kind of
real except for the stories I kind of skipped over those but you know all the protocols and
stuff were very helpful and the information seems sincere um whether it's right or not I don't know
but it certainly was interesting and I had never heard of what he was talking about before I met
him. So I am grateful for that because I think what he's mentioning is very real.
This woman, this plotter is admitting that the information is helpful. She's also saying that
she's skimmed through it. So she didn't really study the book. She didn't really study the
information. And then at the same time, she was telling me that practitioners come to her
to learn from her all the time. And she was suggesting that I could come to her
for practitioner support and education.
Are there people who are applying medical medium information still
who call you and ask for advice?
Absolutely, yeah.
That's mostly what I have.
I have very few clients that found me outside of medical medium.
And, you know, word of mouth is really big.
You know, and when somebody mentions you on social media,
you know, well, you're probably there right now
with getting recommendations and people love word of mouth from others who are being helped.
Yeah. Yeah. But also, so practitioners who are applying medical medium information will ask you
for advice? Oh, yeah. Yeah. This plotter is positioning herself as an authority,
as a health practitioner, when it seems as though she doesn't even really know medical
medium information. She doesn't believe in spirit. It sounds like she really only read
the first book. It sounds like she skimmed it at best. There are eight books plus a ton of other
resources. If food were the only key to healing, which is what Anthony implies really. Um,
so but i mean i mean do you do you ever hear anthony talk about anything other than
what to eat not not a lot right i mean he does get into some spiritual stuff and things but not
really yeah i mean he had talked about he's got like the angels he's got the the soul healing
techniques he's got in the healing path resource he talked about which i think that like that
doesn't that's something that nobody really comes across anymore he talked about the importance of
like exercise and sunlight and and all of those other sorts of things good yeah i have heard the
healing path but not for a really long time yeah oh well that's right he did mention some of that
Yeah, I don't know. He really focuses on food though now.
So here I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to go into explaining more. I wasn't about to try to
give this woman a lesson on how all of the books and how all of the resources are about so much
more than just how to eat. I wanted to see what she knew. And it became really clear to me that
this group, again, does not really understand medical medium information for what it is.
And yet their sources, they feel so strongly about you and the information being problematic
in some way, shape or form.
Yet they admit to applying it in their own lives explicitly without citing the source.
Maybe you can still take that following and just, you know, do your own thing aside from
medical medium, you know, not without, like, like Robbie said, without mentioning him,
but still teach people what you've learned and what you practice yourself and what works for you
and kind of work on it from that perspective.
Since you have a following already, you could.
Now, do I, when I talk to people about health and well-being,
use a million things that I've learned from him?
A hundred percent.
I mean, getting this information out in the world, he shouldn't care who gets credit for it.
I don't know any healer, any real healer that wants to have credit for things.
And trust me, you didn't, you know, you, you didn't need to credit Anthony for what you've learned.
And you can do that without ever using the word medical medium or Anthony William, you know.
Here, this group is coaching me on how to not cite the information.
They're coaching me on how to plagiarize the information.
Unlike them, I cite the source and I always will because it's about integrity.
It's about caring about other people.
It's about people needing to heal.
Citing the source is about respect.
Not citing the source ends up resulting in people putting their own spin on it, even
if they don't mean to.
It gets tainted, right, by human interference.
the information gets changed and further distorted as it gets passed down the line,
becoming something else entirely like a game of telephone where no one can fully get what they
need to heal. And, you know, it just, it makes me question the level of compassion that this group
has for others. Citing the source is not about Anthony. It's not about you, Anthony. It's not
about you seeking notoriety in any way, shape or form. I know that it comes from a place of
deeply caring about people and people having access to the original pure information,
which just so happens to be free. You can access it all for free so that the people who are
struggling and suffering can take it as far as they need to go. This group, they want to brand
themselves. They want to be somebody. They all have businesses in the wellness space.
They're trying to convince me to have no integrity. They're essentially saying that
all of the copyrighted original information is free game. They want rights to that.
They feel entitled to that. They feel entitled to continue on with their brands.
Meanwhile, they want a post-medical medium era.
They want it all down.
They want everyone to stop mentioning medical medium at all.
These people with these intentions are the main sources behind this plot and this article.
They're plagiarized from other books who were his mentors before him.
Like, yeah, everybody knows that apples have X vitamins and Z vitamins.
and his information is very, very, very basic.
Vitamins in an apple is interesting
because the medical medium information, the books,
they really don't talk much about vitamins.
That's actually what everybody else does out there
because that's essentially as far as science and research goes.
And I know that you and I, Anthony, could talk for hours
about what makes medical medium information completely unique and original.
it's quite an insult to oversimplify the information like that and to try to discredit
how unlike anything else that's out there that's ever been done before in history it is and whether
people want to admit that or not it's true and then we've got this plotter who's accusing you
of plagiarizing information it's a serious accusation so when i think about that and i
see what the plot is saying. That's a serious accusation. First of all, my publisher would
never let one of the medical medium books out the door if it was plagiarized on any level.
They have a lot of editors. They purposely look for things like that. They can't just
let the book go out because these books are symptoms and conditions and a lot of intricate
information about the body. All that stuff has to be cited from studies and places of origin that
could be like medical clinics, articles that are out there from doctors. It all has to be cited.
It can't just be thrown into a medical medium book and then sent out the door by the publisher.
So there's no such thing as plagiarizing in these books, and these books would have to cite every single thing everywhere out there.
The publisher wouldn't have it in any other way.
So yeah, so that accusation is ridiculous.
He's very smart and, yeah, probably has some kind of personality disorder, potentially narcissism.
And I don't know what else.
I found that to be a really interesting assessment coming from a group of individuals that refers to themselves as elite.
But I'm letting you know, like, we are an elite group of people.
We're in an elite category, you know?
I want to play this clip again in a minute because recently one of these plotters claimed that nobody ever,
they tried to claim that nobody ever referred to themselves as elites and i want to display that
i'm not putting words in these people's mouths these are actually things that were said by them
on these recordings i also want to point out the fact that you anthony have never referred to
yourself as elite you've never referred to yourself as being above anyone or anything of the like
there's this really twisted dynamic with this group where it's like everything it seems like
everything that they're accusing you of is actually what they're doing and how they are.
But I'm letting you know, like, we are an elite group of people.
We're in an elite category, you know?
And by the way, Ash doesn't need to work.
Ash has ever, ever.
But the woman is, she's had family money.
A lot of it.
You know, private jet and plus.
Did I hear that correctly?
can I hear that back that clip
and by the way Ash doesn't need
to work Ash
ever ever but the woman
has family money
a lot of it
you know private jet and plus
so basically
they're saying they're an
elite group
you've shown me all the
recordings so far or
a fraction of them really from what
you said you have but you
showed recordings showing
that they're plotting this plan.
They went to the media company,
mainstream media outlet.
They are strategic about it.
And they even have a ranking system
like the number one person involved,
number two, number three, number four.
And now I hear one of the people has a private jet.
They don't have to work or work for a living.
and they have what seems to be lots of family wealth.
And I don't have a private jet.
I have to work for a living.
I have to work to make sure I could bring this information
to everyone, to the public.
And there's no paywalls and there's no programs,
nothing like that.
Of course, I don't mind when people monetize their websites
or do what they want to do with their businesses,
but I don't monetize my website like other people do.
And meanwhile, this person has a private jet,
lots of wealth,
seems to be the number one plotter from what it looks like
with the list and ranking system.
And yeah, I mean, I'm speechless, really.
I come from the working class.
That's where I come from.
But apparently this is an elite group.
They're saying that in these recordings.
So yeah, and knowing that these plotters are actually
looking to get that documentary together,
negative documentary, all of it, plus the article,
and then when you look at the plotters and the information,
they don't even care to even want to know what my name is.
but yet my fate is in their hands and the community's fate is in their hands
of this plot it's really interesting
yeah so let's let this group speak for themselves more about their plot i mean when you think about
this from a journalist perspective this piece is a pond of thought unbelievable i mean this is this
is a journalist dream i mean you you want i mean the celebrities the number of books sold
yeah it is awful and that's why this there's an article coming out about him i don't know
if you know anything about that it's not a good one yep i would not want to be on that train
when that article comes out just saying i think there's there's a lot coming is what i think
which is why it's really good that they're telling them now.
Yeah, we're hopeful that once the article's out,
one of the directors or producers that Britton works with
will, you know, become interested in telling the story really well.
Oh, cool. Awesome. I'll pass that on to my husband.
He was a cinematographer for that.
He primarily has been working in documentary the last few years.
britain was on the phone and i was like i was like look guys like britain i was like you have
the connections like you were the cinematographer of bad vegan like why don't you just go like
just talk to people yeah and then and then like that's when and that's when ash went because like
theoretically without me pushing this along why the fuck didn't ash go to
months prior, right?
Like, why does she do that?
I feel like I am seeing this.
Yeah, okay.
That would make a lot of money.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
No question.
I'm in shock.
As I stated in part one,
this group appears to be using a manipulated story
of a deceased person in order to drive out their goals.
What we're uncovering again and again
is, I mean, again, this is just kind of scratching the surface. It's, it's that there are so many
more layers to this, this, the deceased person, it seems to me in all of these 17 hours of calls
that I've had all these recordings, um, with these people as part of this group is that
the story is essentially a guise that really draws people in and really makes people feel like,
oh, medical medium is so bad.
But then as I was really speaking to these people
and hearing them out about what was problematic
about you to them,
a huge percentage of it was just all of this other stuff.
It was, there were all of these other layers
and all of this stuff underneath the surface,
these stories, these rumors,
all of this twisted misinformation.
And then you can kind of see in the recordings
in their own words in a lot of these clips,
what is actually going on behind the scenes and maybe what's driving these people
in ways that I don't know if they realize, but maybe some people who are involved in this are
being driven by, as I said before, some potentially misplaced grief or potentially guilt about their
own involvement with the situation, something like that. But it seems like a lot of it is being
driven by nefarious intentions and by what some of these people can stand to gain personally,
professionally, financially, and otherwise from the fulfillment of this plot, this plan.
I'm seeing, yeah, I mean, I don't even know what to say. I can't get my words together because
I'm hearing cinematographers making connections, making connections about the documentary that
they're bringing to the media outlet.
I'm hearing that.
I'm hearing money is involved.
I'm hearing a person talk about how they wouldn't want to be on this train when this article
comes out, which means they all knew, they're all plotting. It's their connections to the media
company. It's all in these recordings. I heard it's a journalist's dream because they're selling
it to a journalist saying, hey, this is a journalist's dream. I hear they're talking
about how many numbers a book sold, things in that nature. This is a premeditated plot.
who can do this? It's unconsciousable. Doesn't matter how much damage is done to the community.
Doesn't matter anything. They have a strategy and a plan in place. It's all there in the
recordings. I don't even know what to say when I hear these recordings. Can you replay that clip,
the important clip? I mean, they're all important, but the important clip about
they had the idea first
the plot and they took it to the media
company
Britain was on the phone and I was
like I was like look guys
like Britain I was like
you have the connections like you
were the cinematographer of Bad Vegan like
why don't you just go like
just talk to people
and then like that's when
and that's when Ash went and did cause like
theoretically without me
pushing this along
why the fuck didn't Ash go to
months prior, right?
Like, why did she do that?
I feel like I instigated this.
So it wasn't the media company
that took upon the story upon themselves.
The recordings say everything.
It turns out it was their idea.
That's the instigator there.
And then the husband has the connections
to the media outlet.
And they took that plot to the media outlet.
It sounds like **** took the plot to the media outlet using husband's connections too.
And this is before it even started.
So this is even early on.
So what this plotter is saying, it's unthinkable.
It's just unthinkable.
Yeah.
And like you were saying before, we're showing motives, we're showing true intentions by these people saying these things in their own words.
We're showing all of this colluding and just really interesting dynamics in how this story all came to be.
And there's a serious lack of concern for the damage that essentially they intend to cause.
So can you talk more about that and how this process has affected you?
Well, it's affected me for sure.
But the worst part is it's affected the communities because I had to forfeit the book I was going to do for this year.
That was going to be released in October, but there's no way to do it.
So it was a spiritual book that everybody was waiting for.
Um, so I had to cancel that, um, four months straight with hundreds of questions from a
journalist.
And the, I mean, the crazy thing is it's just, yeah, I haven't worked in four months for
the community at all.
So when you, those are the things that I care about the most, nevermind the damage, you
know, involved with, you know, my family and, um, you know, all of that involved, it's,
it's really the big part for me is, is the future of getting the information out to the
community and all that.
So this is the first time since I started putting books out that I've had to forfeit
and actually just cancel the whole book, um, for, for this year, for sure.
So yeah, it's affecting my life, of course, but it's affecting what, which is what I always care about the most, which is the community and people who are struggling. That's always just number one for me. You know, anything in my life, it's secondary anyway, but still, it hasn't been easy.
yeah it's that's i mean for this to have affected the spiritual book that i know everybody in the
community was so excited about and so much looking forward to it just there there really aren't any
words um for how unfortunate how how disappointing how awful this is and again hearing the true
intentions behind it all. This whole thing is just completely unprecedented. It's something
that's never happened before in the health and wellness industry. It's going to take some time
for us to unpack this layer by layer. And I'm grateful again that I have the pure evidence
straight from these people's mouths to be able to really show people what's been going on because
there are a lot of twists and turns to it. And, and I just want to also point out the fact that
you, Anthony, have been talking about this all year. You've been talking about this even, I
remember, I think before that, you've been talking about this for a while, that there are people who
have been trying to take down the community, that that's something that has become a major issue
and that people are not citing the original information back to medical medium and in the
community and this group, you know, has been persuading others to join them and to do the
same. And I know that a lot of people didn't really kind of believe what you'd been saying,
didn't want to believe it, that there was really something like this going on. And so
it's extremely sad. Unfortunately, it's true. And now everybody can hear it for themselves.
Is there any chance to play the last round of clips again for everybody? And I personally
want to hear them because um i just still can't even believe it i mean when you think about this
from a journalist perspective this piece is un-fucking-believable i mean this is this
is a journalist dream i mean you you want i mean the celebrities the number of books sold
yeah it is awful and that's why this there's an article coming out about him
I don't know if you know anything about that.
It's not a good one.
I would not want to be on that train when that article comes out.
Just saying.
I think there's a lot coming, is what I think,
which is why it's really good that they're telling the now.
Yeah, we're hopeful that once the article's out,
one of the directors or producers that Britton works with
will, you know, become interested in telling the story really well.
Oh, cool. Awesome. I'll pass that on to my husband.
He was a cinematographer for that.
He primarily has been working in documentary the last few years.
Britton was on the phone, and I was like,
I was like, look, guys, like, Britton,
I was like, you have the connections.
Like, you were the cinematographer of Bad Vegan.
Like, why don't you just go, like, just talk to people?
yeah and then and then like that's when and that's what ash went because like theoretically
without me pushing this along why the fuck didn't ash go to
months prior right like what took why did she do that like i feel like i instigated this
so he instigated it and instigated the number one plotter and the number one plotter's husband
to use connections, to go to the mainstream media outlet to get an article going about
a deceased person who happens to be a friend of the plotter's friend of mine, using her
death and then having an article done by the media company so that bids when it comes out,
one of the plotters says, I don't want to be on that train when that comes out.
all pushed by them.
And then when the article comes out,
bids for the documentary start,
and then the husband has connections to producers.
This is everything I heard on those recordings.
And this is allowed by mainstream media.
From what it looks like,
these are highly, highly compromised sources
that are rivals, business owners, in the health space,
knocking out the medical medium, medical medium community
would probably be very helpful for some of them.
From my opinion, from what I'm seeing from these recordings
of their exact words,
do you have any...
So there's more than this.
You have hours and hours of this.
Yes, there are still hours and hours of a lot of content from these recordings to unpack.
And I intend that we'll keep going with this and continue peeling back these layers.
So investigator journalists, you're actually on the scene.
and you have uncovered a plot and uncovered a planned plan.
I've never seen anything like this in alternative medicine
or the health and wellness space ever in my life,
and I've been in the health and wellness space for a very long time,
and I've never seen anything like this.
Yeah.
And it sounds like their plan is in the works
and their plotted plan is happening.
So I think that your recordings are extremely, extremely powerful.
And the community, I'm sure, appreciates you bringing this to light and exposing the plotters and exposing their plan.
And I thank you.
And we have the community.
I'm sure they thank you, too.
and truly honored that you're here.
It's the morning.
You get a call.
It's a rollercoaster ride
waiting for you to take a fall.
They send you on it.
They got some balls.
The fear and worry begins to rise.
It feels it will never subside.
You might die.
you're taken away from what's truly important
service to the people first
private life always on the back burner
and hope someday you get to enjoy it
but I doubt it
everything gets put on hold
as you battle the devils
and the ones that want my name sold
very bold
as they try to run you over with the truck
they never show kindness
They don't care. No one yells duck. You go down. You hit the ground, but you're not running.
You're sinking, but you're not drowning. And the tide begins to turn when the real truth burns.
You never learned that the vultures eat your liver and overreach. As they go for your gizzard,
Mistakes are made and they breach.
Now it's time.
The skit flips.
The clowns, once beaming, go screaming as they run out of town.
Faw on their faces.
How does it feel now as you trip?
Keep in mind, you're far from perfect.
You think you're the shit.
A message to remember when you're down here.
We are all sisters and brothers.
Some love one another.
some love to be gaslit
while some just love to gaslight
while others just love to fight
and some become self-lovers
who are you to say you're better than the other?
Be a tree among a forest of different creatures
as you get older
you find you're not supersonic
and you learn
that your actions become your teachers
years.
